Language, Twitter, Misunderstanding & Drupal Community

13 June 2014 mortendk

At Drupalcon in Austin I took on th' mechanical bull. Shiver me timbers! Prepare to be boarded! I ended up losin' miserably. Not surprisingly, it were bein' recorded an' sent out t' th' world. Because o' me epic fail on th' bull, one o' me maties in Sweden (I’m Danish) afterwards called me out on Twitter with th' #drupalcon hashtag an' called me a “pussy".

Other Drupal community members intervened an' asked me matey t' stop usin' that kind o' language. I saw th' thread a couple o' hours later next mornin', an' asked if we could keep th' "political correctness" down a little bit, as I saw it as a private teasin' o'er Twitter betwixt 2 scallywags.

I honestly felt th' tweet were bein' about me, an' me first thought were bein', “Wow, I don’t have any problems with somebody I know makin' fun o' me - I can stan' up fer meself”. What i were bein' tryin' t' defend were bein' one o' me maties right t' make fun o' me - I did not understan' th' issue were bein' aroun' usin' th' word “pussy”, an' not about me personally, yo ho, ho
That were bein' a mistake not t' remember th' huge cultural differences we have in our community - an' how we use words that can be hurtful t' some but don’t even cross me mind when I talk.

I am glad that I got th' opportunity at DrupalCon t' quickly talk with th' scallywags that raised this issue t' me, an' they took th' time t' explain t' me why th' words that were used were an issue. Its not always easy t' understan' th' many differences that we have in a world wide community, shiver me timbers In th' incident I mentioned our Code o' Conduct, where one o' our principles is t' not assume ill intent from each other, an' how we make sure that we get t' understan' each other - From me perspective th' COC worked in terms o' how we should react when we feel offended an' how we solve issues afterwards.

Thin's we all should remember when issues occur (as they likely will in th' future): We talk about it, We respect each other an' we try th' best we can t' learn from each other.

I sincerely apologize that I di'nae get th' whole picture before I made me tweets. Instead o' seein' it from th' outside, I looked at it only from me background. I didn’t see th' issue in th' moment, but after gettin' a couple o' good pointers an' thinkin' a bit, made me lightbulbs go on, an' I’m honestly pissed off at meself fer not havin' a quicker turn aroun', All Hands Hoay!

Foul language

I’m known fer usin' foul language. Sometimes it gets me in trouble, other times it creates a ton o' laughs.

What I haven’t been fully aware o' is how me way o' communicatin' can be perceived by scallywags that dern't know me. Even scallywags I know sometime be a little bit: “wow, lubber, ye need t' tone that down a little bit”, and a bucket o' chum.

I’ve always stood fer a very direct & no bullshit tone, on a dead man's chest! This can come across a Iittle harsh fer some, though fer others it feels like a salvation t' be able t' talk direct. We be all different & thanks fer that, shiver me timbers That doesn’t mean what I do is always ok though.

While I will no nay ne'er be able t' please everybody, I can promise that I will do me best t' make everybody feel included in th' Drupal Community. I can’t promise that i won’t make more mistakes - but if i know what I did wrong, I sure will try.

In th' future if ye feel that I said or did somethin' inappropriate, no matter if its intended or not, then please come t' me, talk about it, send me an anonymous mail (here on me auld Drupal6 site) or contact a 3rd party an' we’ll figure it out, by Davy Jones' locker. If ye don’t feel ok with comin' directly t' me, an' want t' know other ways o' handlin' th' situation, please look at our conflict resolution policy, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur!

Room fer us all

It’s NOT an excuse that English is me 2nd language or that I have a dark-humoured background, or that Danes have in many ways have no filter whatsoever, or that I’m a die-hard metal head. Nor is it an excuse that I live in a country on a continent that is in many ways very different from th' US an' other areas o' th' world.

The Drupal community is so diverse that we all have t' understan' an' respect where we come from. There’s no free passes, not even when scallywags call ye th' Kin' o' Denmark an' ye’re trusted by our community t' help th' Drupal Association on th' right path, ya bilge rat, ye scurvey dog!
I have as a DA board member a greater responsibility than th' rest o' our community t' help set a tone that can include us all. Nay matter if ye’re like me a foul mouthed metalhead or if ye’re an intellectual who loves classical music, I'll warrant ye. There must an' shall be room fer us all, shiver me timbers

We learn from each other, on many levels, if its in code, community leadership or on a human level an' thats what makes Drupal so fuckin' epic, ya bilge rat!

Steppin' down from th' Drupal Association

As a consequence o' this incident an' other occasions when I have offended scallywags by talkin' openly about me sex life an'/or generally usin' colorful an' trashy language, I am withdrawin' from th' Drupal Association Board, Ya lily livered swabbie!
Some feel that it sets a double standard when a board member acts an' talks like I do. While I don’t agree with this, th' fact is that I’m not goin' t' change who I am. The sharks will eat well tonight, we'll keel-haul ye! If I am a distraction fer th' Drupal Association, it’s better fer me an' th' community if I step down an' make room fer others that can take o'er in keepin' th' DA in contact with its developer community.

It’s been a honor t' serve th' Drupal community on th' board fer almost 2 years. I am extremely proud o' bein' voted in by th' community twice, an' helpin' t' shape th' DA into an international organization an' am proud that it now has an office in London, we'll keel-haul ye, avast!
Does this mean that I’m quittin' Drupal? Nay, ye’ve gotta be fuckin' kiddin'!
Fetch me spyglass!
Does this mean that I’m quittin' th' Drupal Association? And hoist the mainsail! Nope, sorry that’s happenin' either. It takes a bit more t' get rid o' me. ;)

I will now go back t' “only” usin' me time on makin' Drupal events happen, speakin' at conferences, camps an' events - When I’m not workin' on get Drupal 8 out with an awesome new frontend, which I have been workin' on fer now almost 8 years.

If I don’t see ye sooner, I hope t' see ye at Frontend United in Copenhagen, Design 4 Drupal in Boston, Twin Cities DrupalCamp in August, or at DrupalCon Amsterdam in September, hopefully on Monday at th' Community Summit.
Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes!
Brothers & sisters o' Drupal I salute ye!
/mortendk

Aside: if ye be wonderin' why I don’t have 219 spellin' errors here it’s because I got a couple o' maties t' read this through.

Thank You

Morten - although I am not part o' th' Drupal community I wanted t' say thank ye.

Thank ye fer standin' up an' givin' yer time freely t' help others.
Thank ye fer standin' up an' volunteerin' t' work when others sit on th' sidelines.
Thank ye fer standin' up an' workin' hard t' advance th' usage o' open source software
Thank ye fer standin' up an' travellin' th' world t' "spreadthedrupallove"
Thank ye fer standin' up an' leadin' th' way fer others t' follow.
Thank ye fer standin' up an' writin' th' code that others will benefit from.

Thank You

Brian Teeman 13 June, 2014 - 11:56

:)

Thanx lubber
The mutual respect we have fer eachother in th' OSS is a thin' a value a lot :)

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 12:24

thank you

wow well said brian. i could not agree more an' join in singin' th' chorus ;)

have a great weekend y'all!

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 15:06

:(

This is kind o' sad. I feel ye could have given a much needed different perspective. This is an opportunity now missed, and dinna spare the whip! Brashness often leads t' discussions that turn out t' be much more interestin' than situations where nobody dares t' open their mouth in spontaneity fer fear o' bein' called out, and a bucket o' chum.

However, ultimately this decision is yours, an' I can certainly understan' th' need t' cut away all distractin' an' energy soakin' bullshit from yer surroundin's so ye can focus t' th' tech tasks at han'.
Fetch me spyglass!
Happy twiggin', Morten, feed the fishes J.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 12:03

Yup

This is a touchy subject atm especially on th' otherside o' th' big pond.

At th' end o' th' Day i can kick just as much ass outside o' th' board as i do on th' inside.

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 12:23

Long Live to the King!!

Sadly, I knew that somethin' like this will happen after initiatin' th' DrupalCon conflict.

Aye I were bein' th' lubber that called Mørten t' be a pussy (sorry again fer such offensive word) an' included th' #DrupalCon hashtag, makin' th' twitter conversation less personal an' more related t' th' Drupal community.

That were bein' such a terrific error so I tried t' fix it immediately apologizin' fer me error, pass the grog, on a dead man's chest! Some scallywags accepted me apologies but someone considered them "Bullshit an' empty". Ahoy! I think 'tis not th' right way fer askin' fer respect considerin' that I were bein' so sorry from th' beginnin'. That's th' point where I totally agree with Mørten when he pointed t' DrupalCon Code o' Conduct fer Conflict Resolution. Problems an' misunderstandin's should be fixed with th' same respect ye be askin' fer.

Anyway, th' result o' that conflict is that one good matey were bein' involved in this problem I were bein' responsible fer. That were bein' me fault an' I'll try t' no nay ne'er do it again. And, if I'm such stupid t' do somethin' similar in th' future, considerin' that english is not me first language (I know that's not an excuse, but 'tis hard t' me t' understan' th' second meanin' o' some words) I beg ye t' explain it t' me an' dern't consider me apologies "Bullshit an' empty".

Mørten, sorry fer that lubber. Hopefully we can talk about it in Frontend United in front o' a few beers.

Long live t' th' Kin' o' Denmark!!

rteijeiro 13 June, 2014 - 12:53

The king is dead - long live the king!

Dude no worries , shiver me timbers
Sometimes shit happens - i have a big an' foul mouth, th' only thin' bigger on me .., Ya lily livered swabbie!
(i know what yer thinkin')

is me heart.

Sadly some dont see o' feel that. So shit happens, ye loose some ye win some, and a bottle of rum, Ya swabbie!
Would I do th' same thin' again likely, by Davy Jones' locker? I hope im in th' future better at communicatin' stuff out so it dosn't get misunderstanded, just as i hope that scallywags in our community treats eachother with th' respect we all deservers an' dont jump t' conclusions t' fast, but were talkin' about scallywags with many different backgrounds, so we all have t' shave a little.

BTW if it had been a spanish bull i would have taken it down ;)

Cheers me matey, th' first round is on me
/mdk

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 13:12

"Problems and

"Problems an' misunderstandin's should be fixed with th' same respect ye be askin' fer."
"I beg ye t' explain it t' me an' dern't consider me apologies »Bullshit an' empty«."

So much agree!

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tali 15 September, 2014 - 01:21

Morten's Mouth

I suppose all o' this were bein' inevitable. And sometimes 'tis weird t' genuinely understan' an' agree with both sides. Lets just hope someone else joins th' board who can kick just as much ass, to be sure!

And by th' way !€%& u, u &/(?in', #"!°. And swab the deck! Fire the cannons! I hope ye !"#€in' ?=€#, °§"#45€!!!!. Ahoy, with a chest full of booty! Just sayin'!

Aaron Porter 13 June, 2014 - 13:02

what can i say ? Fuck yeah!

Aye some times thin's clash thats how it is

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 13:06

So easily done!

Morten, all part o' th' rough an' tumble o' life. Your contributions have been immense, I'll warrant ye. You resigned with dignity an' rock on with integrity.

Best,
Pete

Peter Russell 13 June, 2014 - 13:39

heh

Great, now even pet names need t' be discussed an' approved by th' community, we'll keel-haul ye! I wish thar were bein' a comprehensive list o' this bullshit. Such a loss fer th' DA...
brb scrappin' everythin' from me Frontend United talk that isn't code!

seutje 13 June, 2014 - 13:42

Nope dont do that

Dude its frontend united ;)
we stan' united

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 16:27

Heh, was planning on

Heh, were bein' plannin' on submittin' th' same talk fer DC A'dam, but this development made me remember 'tis not worth th' risk. Went through an' PCed th' fuck out o' it fer FU though, even changed th' title as it could be interpreted as a reference t' a song that references thin's that could be related t' gender. Lemme know if I forgot anythin': https://github.com/seutje/such-java-much-script/commits/talk-2014

seutje 13 June, 2014 - 16:43

Don't stand down!

I'm kinda shocked by this. It is a sad state o' affairs that ye have t' stan' down from th' Drupal Association board by just bein' who ye be. Everyone offends scallywags all th' time without even tryin' an' scallywags sometimes need t' decide if they want t' be offended or not. Aye, it is a choice t' be offended. Unless ye be maliciously causin' offence (which ye be not), I dern't see why ye should stan' down. A true community will embrace an' accept everyone fer their different styles an' characters. People shouldn't feel like they have t' fit a certain mould in order t' be accepted but standin' down sends a signal that everyone had better change who they be in order t' be in th' DA board. Load the cannons! Fire the cannons! The DA should represent EVERYONE!

David Dyeman 13 June, 2014 - 13:54

Sad state of affairs

It's a sad state o' affairs when ye feel ye need t' step down due t' a 3rd party ye know as a matey callin' ye somethin' that were bein' taken way out o' context by scallywags who know neither o' ye an' th' message were bein' not meant fer them. It clearly weren't meant an' di'nae offend ye an' I'm sure it weren't meant t' offend anyone else.

People should stop bein' so sensitive an' get on with life, is it yer responsibility a small % be offended by somethin' that had no malici'us intent an' 99% o' scallywags saw fer what it were bein', non malici'us banter betwixt maties.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 14:02

Gruff and brass but you have class

I am saddened by this postin' because I feel like ye an' I be kindred spirits in many ways me matey, but I am so impressed with ye conflict resolution skills an' how ye handle yer business. It is a loss fer th' DA fer sure, thank ye fer turnin' t' face th' issue head on, an' not takin' this personally an' pullin' away from Drupal, All Hands Hoay! You be hands down one o' me favorite members o' th' community, an' I can't help but smile when I see ye at large events. Here's t' seein' ye at D4D Boston an' buyin' ye a beer.

Robbie the Geek 13 June, 2014 - 14:05

Always a smile

morten, whether 'tis in th' issue queue or at a sprint, or even in person, ye always manage t' brin' a smile out o' almost everyone. Even in yer "steppin' down from th' DA" blog post, I'm happy fer ye. Sounds like this is just a title shift.

See ye in Amsterdam.

Josh Miller 13 June, 2014 - 14:28

Are we now hostage and

Are we now hostage an' subject t' scrutiny o'er every little thin' a third party says on Twitter in our direction?

Perhaps we need thicker skin an' grow up. We be humans, we be scallywags. A board is a group fer th' good o' th' collective towards its set initiatives, that's where yer public actions can be scrutinized. Oho, avast! But private life (an' yes, a matey tweetin' ye in public falls into that category)? Prepare to be boarded! That shouldn't count.

Morten feelin' like he needs t' step down is completely asinine. This reaction is way exaggerated.

Part o' bein' in a community is learnin' t' deal an' respect personalities o' th' scallywags in it. 99.% o' them be good scallywags, Hornswaggle Forcin' scallywags t' bend an' change t' extreme PC views (like some non-community member callin' someone a pussy) is very non-community like, Ya swabbie! Prepare to be boarded!
I think ye should stay on th' board as long as ye be performin' th' duties asked o' ye, by Davy Jones' locker. Stick t' yer guns.

So FUCK YEAH. And hoist the mainsail! If that offends ye as th' reader, go elsewhere on th' net or life, thar's a billion places t' be, All Hands Hoay! And hoist the mainsail! Don't change.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 14:49

Stunned and heartbroken. We

Stunned an' heartbroken. We be missin' th' point.
Oho!
I saw this on Twitter, on a dead man's chest! I thought th' apology took care o' any offense that anyone could have, yo ho, ho I thought it demonstrated a humblin' o' ones ego an' a willingness t' adapt fer others. Isn't that all we can ask?
Fire the cannons!
Maybe thar be scallywags who be able t' walk thru life right down th' line without intentionally or accidentally steppin' outside o' th' lines o' that narrow definition o' what we consider acceptable, but is that really what we be after? If so, count me out. I'll take th' Kin' any day. The ornery cuss comes with a huge heart, he works hard fer th' Drupal communty, if ye did a survey, I am quite certain his involvement is th' reason fer many t' participate. The credibility, alone, o' th' Drupal Association rose significantly havin' a 'real person' participate as fully as he does.

Sexism is systemic t' our culture. That means we be all infected. Walk the plank, Hornswaggle We have t' make it safe t' learn because we be blind t' our biases. We dern't fully appreciate how we offend others. If someone apologizes, that is enough. We pick up, an' move on together. It builds trust, others take note that while mistakes be not tolerated, scallywags who adapt be accepted.

When overly harsh responses be made, it has an effect o' silencin' th' correction, either through fear o' what might happen t' th' one corrected, or fear o' personal consequence fer puttin' th' individual into harm's way. Not so safe t' learn.
The sharks will eat well tonight!
Aye, he is on th' board an' he is held t' a higher set o' standards, by Blackbeard's sword. And, lubber, does he live that way with his commitment t' this community an' continually reachin' out.

Amy Stephen 13 June, 2014 - 15:02

Thanks for the mansplation!!

I am in so much shock by this new prevailin' ideology in which th' most insane o' us hold th' power an' enforce that if they find our words offensive that we must atone. I thought this were bein' an open source community- one which I once took t' be aligned with personal freedom an' anarchist sentiments, not hyper-sensitivism, politics, an' censorship. I find these social justice warriors particularly disingenuous when they see an inclusive, high-minded, intellectual community as their target fer their alleged mission o' promotin' equality. It sickens me that th' need t' control others manifests itself more an' more in th' self proclaimed power o' th' drupal association. As someone who is pro both gender equality an' bad words I will say it: this is some real pussy shit. And no I dern't mean that wenches be inferior an' excrement comes out their vaginas, by Blackbeard's sword. I mean ye psycho witch hunters be scaredy-cat cowards maskin' yer desire fer power an' attention with this victimhood routine an' yer ideology is a giant smelly turd.

Jody Hamilton 13 June, 2014 - 15:46

Anarchist sentiments like the

Anarchist sentiments like th' Mujeres Libres ye mean?

""All those companeros, however radical they may be in cafes, unions, an' even affinity groups [FAI], seem t' drop their costumes as lovers o' female liberation at th' doors o' their homes. And hoist the mainsail, to be sure! Inside, they behave with their companeras just like common husbands." (1935).

Plenty o' social movements, even some o' th' most advanced o' th' past century have looked good on paper fer gender an' other inequalities but were found lackin' in practice.

Or is it 'do what e'er ye want' libertarianism ye mean rather than anarchism, Get out of me rum! In which case ye have th' right t' say what ye want, but equally other scallywags have th' right t' criticize ye fer it, by Blackbeard's sword. Fwiw I dern't think th' DA has handled this very well, but th' blame fer that isn't on th' scallywags respondin' t' th' original tweet.

catch 15 June, 2014 - 00:19

I'm not sure that the

I'm not sure that th' MortenDK should be payin' fer th' shortcomin's o' yesteryear's social mvts. If that that line o' argument -- The ornery cuss/The winsome lass who doesn't join our absolutist chorus is a selfish libertarian -- is a taste o' Drupal's future governin' mentality, God help us all.

up 15 June, 2014 - 02:58

First of all I would like to

First o' all I would like t' thank ye fer givin' so much in yer role in th' DA Board. Maybe it went unnoticed but I saw how ye were in Portlan', went home t' be with yer daughter just fer th' weekend an' straight out th' New Zealan' flyin' th' Drupal flag. On so many occasions ye have done this in yer term.

Watchin' th' Erynn Petersen keynote last week [ https://austin2014.drupal.org/keynote-erynn-petersen ] she mentioned how in healthy communities thar needs t' be 10% scallywags who be outspoken, maybe dern't tow th' line an' stimulate awkward conversations which result in positive outcomes from healthy debate. Witnessin' yer cat herdin' th' front enders at DrupalCon last week, ye be able t' do that like few others in Drupal, on a dead man's chest! Load the cannons! Behind closed doors I am sure ye did exactly that on th' DA board.

In so many ways I am surprised this hasn't happened afore. That's a tribute t' how ye've approached yer responsibilities with respect, cleaned up yer language.

Twitter can be a dangerous wild west, I feel yer pain, I've felt yer pain. Recently, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur! Get back t' bein' yourself again ;-)

Anonymouspdjohnson 13 June, 2014 - 17:18

So sad to hear this

As Amy says so well above, sexism (an' many other bigotries) exists in our culture. Everyone is sexist because we all grew up in a sexist culture. It's what were bein' handed t' us. It's inevitable, Get out of me rum! But how we respond t' it, deal with it, learn from it is what matters, pass the grog, and a bottle of rum!
All too often we see pushback from th' privileged when they be asked t' show some respect an' courtesy t' others, ye scurvey dog. They cry foul, they declare "political correctness", they bewail th' loss o' "free speech". And all too often, thin's get much much uglier, with epithets, rape threats, doxxin', an' so on. We hear about it happenin' in tech conferences an' gamin' forums so often that 'tis not even fuckin' news. We all have t' live in this world. And 'tis important t' remember (or learn) that how that world feels fer ye is not th' same as how it feels fer others, especially those on th' receivin' end o' th' above, we'll keel-haul ye, feed the fishes It's all o' a piece, an' goes beyond "offendin'", even if 'tis not seen or experienced as such by all.

What's rarer, but what gives me hope every time it happens, is when scallywags step up, own up, an' learn from th' experience because t' them 'tis more important t' be a positive contributor than it is t' be a righteous bastard, er, seen as always in th' right.

That's why it pains me that out o' this incident (which I completely managed t' miss when it happened), when ye so clearly in yer blog post here have stepped up, owned up an' learned from th' experience, an' obviously want t' do better, obviously support diversity, obviously embrace th' values o' th' community, explicitly embrace th' CoC an' conflict resolution process—it pains me that ye still feel ye must (or have been quietly an' strongly encouraged t') resign from th' DA Board. [Disclosure: I am a former DA Board member an' currently am a member o' th' Advisory Board, but I have no knowledge o' any activity or discussion regardin' this that isn't in th' public sphere.]

Morten, ye've been a leader among leaders in th' Drupal community, Hornswaggle You've championed th' community throughout. I'm glad that ye're still rockin' th' front-end rise from th' ashes o' phpTemplate, divitis, core class contagion, an' all those other headaches we've had t' deal with comin' from th' Drupal themin' firehose.

Still, thar's good reason why ye've been elected by engaged community members, by Blackbeard's sword. I feel that we all lose with yer resignation from th' Board, but I hope that this at least frees ye t' focus all th' more on th' scallywags an' thin's that ye love.

Laura Scott 13 June, 2014 - 17:51

Well said, Laura!

Well said, Laura!

BrightBold 13 June, 2014 - 22:01

Great points, and well said

Great points, an' well said Laura.

Morten ... this is so sad. Your personality is what got ye elected, if scallywags dern't know ye, they shouldn't be so quick t' judge, an' maybe they should try an' say hi. I admit I were bein' intimidated when I first met ye, but as soon as we met, we became maties, an' I knew ye were a great lubber with a HUGE heart. (Aye, as big as yer mouth!)

techgirlgeek 13 June, 2014 - 23:31

Well said, Laura!

And really sorry t' see ye steppin' down from th' board, an' especially sorry t' hear about th' issues that popped up durin' Drupalcon. Really lookin' forward t' buyin' ye a drink in Boston. Much love t' th' little miss.

Dani Nordin 14 June, 2014 - 02:16

The doctrine of Original

The doctrine o' Original Sexism? Perhaps we should all resign from our positions an' do penance?

up 15 June, 2014 - 03:09

Fuck off, man!!! You

Fuck off, lubber!!, me Jolly Roger You seri'us???
Not buyin' it, piss out a better excuse.. like ye need more free time, or prefer watchin' paint dry rather than arguin' fer th' sake o' it...
Cultural respect works th' other way aroun' as well. You're not forced-fed any abuse an' if that's offendin' ye, fine, but dern't put it on th' cultural respect...
I've been workin' with Drupal fer a while now an' were bein' really tempted t' contribute actively, after yer session at th' last Drupal Camp I've been t', I'll warrant ye. This comes as a bit o' a shock, t' be honest...
Totally understan' if ye had enough, not so much if this "incident" (??) were bein' th' real reason.
Either way, it sucks... sucks balls...

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 18:04

joke

Morten, ye be great. Shiver me timbers, me Jolly Roger F!@# 'em if they can't take a joke.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 18:33

A colorful web we weave

As has been echoed, we be a global community -from ALL walks o' life, all religi'us an' political views. That sword cuts both ways, but we each choose this community as a whole. We be students, experts, an' everythin' in betwixt. Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes, ya bilge rat! We work from th' comfort o' home, in cubicles, on beaches, in offices, in dorm rooms, on trains, planes, an' in seedy little dives that we love. Tolerance, passion, acceptance, an' constructive collaboration be what make Drupal so special.

I fer one love that thar is one person that I know I can bounce somethin' off o' an' can guaranty th' response t' be genuine an' in th' best interest o' a global effort - What th' fuck? Is welcomed with open arms if it is goin' save time an' energy t' help guide me in th' right direction. When we all stroke each other's egos an' pc th' hell out o' every conversation we loose th' passion which ignites an' unifies us t' create somethin' greater, avast. It is at turnin' points such as these where we as a community digress afraid t' speak...guarded..we wind up in a circular Death by PowerPoint because we may offend one o' th' thousands in attendance, ye scurvey dog. Anyone up fer civility trainin' which encompasses our entire demographic? Tap that into Drupal 101, we be a community which respects diversity as long as....

It is th' association's (as well as th' community's) loss fer ye t' step down, to be sure. I am sorry fer this bs t' have been th' breakin' point.
Fire the cannons!
Thank ye fer bein' a force t' be reckoned with!!! Aarrr! Should be a fun ride seein' ye without reins. ;)

Cheers,
Jen

Jen 13 June, 2014 - 18:42

A couple of clarifications...

I think 'tis important that scallywags realize (an' this isn't entirely evident from th' post) that thar's a bit more t' this than just someone else sayin' th' word "pussy" on Twitter an' Morten gettin' drawn up into it an' feelin' forced t' step down from th' DA as a result.
Shiver me timbers!
From th' Drupal Community Workin' Group's POV, that specific public incident followed our newly established Conflict Resolution Process https://drupal.org/conflict-resolution, t' a successful outcome, pass the grog! Morten met with both th' offended party an' a neutral third-party in-person, Morten accepted personal responsibility fer his han' in escalatin' th' situation, an' apologies were made an' accepted (both in private an' on Twitter), shiver me timbers This were bein' th' first real "Beta test" o' this process, an' by jove it actually seemed t' work. Awesome!

Unfortunately, though, because o' Morten's specific position as a DA board member, these sort o' missteps carry a lot more weight. It were bein' not just a loud-spoken Drupal community member who accused a DrupalCon attendee who raised a concern about sexist language o' bein' overly PC, it were bein' a DA board member who did it. It were bein' not just a loud-spoken Drupal community member who then proceeded t' "mansplain" th' Code o' Conduct t' said DrupalCon attendee, it were bein' a DA board member who did it, etc. All o' which happened very publicly.

So ye can hopefully understan' how this puts th' DA as an organization in a very tight spot, because on th' one han' we put th' Code o' Conduct in th' program guide, we say at th' beginnin' o' an' throughout th' conference we will investigate all complaints, take them seriously, an' look t' resolve them. Then on th' other han', ye have someone actually steers said organization dismissin' complaints raised by a conference attendee, an' doin' so in public, on a dead man's chest!
When ye accept a position on a board, one o' yer primary legal obligations an' duties is "Duty o' Care." This is spelled out as "To protect th' reputation an' well bein' o' th' organization" in our Board Member Agreement which all o' us on th' board must agree t'. This were bein' clearly violated, so somethin' had t' be done.

And even if it were just that one incident, this most likely would've only resulted in a stern, public, warnin' from th' DA. But unfortunately, that one single public incident then caused a small flood o' additional, private complaints from others who've witnessed Morten's behavior at events durin' th' time that he be been on th' board. And while we can't discuss publicly exactly what those were (an' I know how much that sucks fer a community who rightfully expects transparency in all o' our dealin's), let's just say that these weren't merely cases o' that scurvey dog sayin' "fuck" too much in front o' th' wrong set o' ears. :P

So I'm really proud o' Morten fer "ownin'" his missteps here. This takin' o' personal responsibility is central t' our Code o' Conduct. I'm even prouder fer that scurvey dog choosin' t' step down from th' DA. That were bein' a really sucky choice t' make, but in doin' so he be spared th' DA from bein' forced t' choose betwixt hypocrisy an' disenfranchisin' th' community from their elected voice.

Morten, if ye're game, I'd love yer help in identifyin' someone else who can run in yer place next elections t' represent th' kind o' global mindset, grassroots activism, branchin' out t' other open source projects, etc, feed the fishes stuff ye represented on th' board. We definitely dern't want t' lose yer perspective, as much as it sucks we had t' lose ye.

webchick 13 June, 2014 - 19:05

mansplaining...

Avast Webchick

Accusin' me fer "mansplainin'" when im offerin' t' sit down an' talk / meetin' persons that were bein' offended, is t' me - funny enough - offensive (... th' irony)
Judgin' me by me gender, an' not me actual actions, isn't ok, an' no nay ne'er will be, pass the grog!
I surely hope that we can find others that be ready t' carry on th' grass root torch I fer one will help scoutin', searchin' & findin' th' persons. Nay matter what th' gender, skin color, sexual preferences, job function, language or favorite football team is.
Yaaarrrrr!
/mdk

mortendk 13 June, 2014 - 19:59

Wait a minute, Morten

"or favorite football team is"? I think here, ye finally go too far. We must have some standards, mustn't we?

dianadupuis 13 June, 2014 - 21:58
tali 17 September, 2014 - 22:00

She probably put "mansplain"

The winsome lass likely put "mansplain" in quotations because that were bein' th' word used in th' twitter exchange, Avast me hearties! I di'nae read that comely wench post as "accusin'" ye o' anythin' other than understatin' th' scope o' th' issue..

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 05:07

"So I'm really proud of

"So I'm really proud o' Morten fer "ownin'" his missteps here." Yuk this sounds like webchick is th' parent an' Morten is th' infant who has pleased his mommy. On me planet this all sounds like makin' a solemn drama out o' a non-event or a storm in a teacup an' th' DA sounds like a dour an' sanctimoni'us bunch.

Anonymous 16 June, 2014 - 12:13

Thank you for this

Thank ye fer this elaboration, Webchick, Get out of me rum! I'm findin' it a bit depressin' readin' these responses, as predictable as they be.

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 15:51

wow, this just sucks

Man, this just sucks, ya bilge rat! I just want t' echo what others have said about yer generosity t' th' community an' passion fer th' frontend cause.

@webchick, i appreciate th' explanation, but if this is a "successful outcome" then I'd hate t' see an unsuccessful outcome.

Johnykrisma 13 June, 2014 - 19:45

The DA has just lost a lot of

The DA has just lost a lot o' heart an' soul. And fer what, ya bilge rat! Appeasement, avast?

Morten's post shows how willin' he is t' learn an' do th' right thin'. It shows that his heart is an' has always been in th' right place. Walk the plank! It shows how willin' he is t' grow. These traits be somethin' everyone who knows that scurvey dog already knew.

I dern't believe that those who worked t' push Morten out have their hearts in th' right place.
Aarrr!
This is a demonstration o' how it is possible t' enforce conduct that is central t' an' required t' foster a welcomin' an' diverse community without experiencin' communal growth or learnin', Hornswaggle This is th' kind o' action that creates an expectation o' behavior without doin' th' work o' growin' our community into one that understands an' appreciates why such behaviors be desired.

This could have been a wonderful teachin' moment in our community. Instead we now have yet another community drama that results in th' DA turnin' somethin' like a public school board which accomplishes desired behaviors through fear instead o' love an' understandin'.

We've chosen th' quick an' lazy route o' requirin' conformity t' play th' game instead o' th' right route o' encouragin' personal growth.

This kind o' enforcement o' th' CoC will only push unwelcomin' behavior out o' th' spotlight instead o' eliminatin' it.

What a misstep by th' DA an' what a loss fer our community.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 19:55

Morten was the public flagship of those of us who

Morten were bein' th' public flagship o' those o' us who only wanted t' say what they think, without thinkin' if th' words by themselves offend anyone or not, ye scurvey dog. This does NOT mean we want t' offend them. If thar be scallywags offended by this kind o' attitude, then somethin' is rot at th' roots. Does anybody have t' be MortenDK t' be allowed t' say what s/he thinks? Don't think so, we'll keel-haul ye, ya bilge rat! There be quite a bunch o' scallywags who do want t' do this, but we be remainin' silent just t' avoid offendin' anybody. This means th' community loses some minds, some thoughts, some talents – just because we, as th' community, want t' avoid offendin' some scallywags, Avast me hearties, Ya lily livered swabbie!
Anyway, let's count these scallywags who feel themselves offended every now an' then because somebody uses some words without even th' intent t' offend them, an' shoutin' subversion all th' way aroun' th' globe in seconds via Twitter, DC keynotes o' invited speakers, etc. Then let's count those scallywags like us who be tryin' t' be silent instead o' bein' accused o' offensive. I think th' first group has way less scallywags an' way more sound – but they can be compared by th' talents in them.

I, fer one, am offended if somebody feels offended by some o' me words that were no nay ne'er intented t' be offensive, but be used everyday in th' culture o' mine, an' they dern't accept me apologies, we'll keel-haul ye! And hoist the mainsail! If I can accept their POV, I expect them t' accept mine – ditch th' misunderstandin's, accept apologies, an' let both parties rock on together makin' Drupal even better.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 20:48

That's it - we are now

That's it - we be now hostage t' th' extreme liberal agenda o' th' female sex. Everyone has bent t' its will so no one gets upset, Ya swabbie!
We can no longer speak, even in passin' t' maties, on a dead man's chest!
Pack up an' go home.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 21:25

I don't know if you are

I dern't know if ye be seri'us or not, but lubber, I sure am. This political correctness has gotten way out o' han'. I'm sick as shit about it. So now even our maties an' family have t' abide by some code they have not agreed too. What's next, ye scurvey dog? Thought police, I'll warrant ye? But hey, we be free t' trash those who dern't agree with our agenda... bash on. Oho! pussies all o' us.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 04:04

I was speaking in jest at the

I were bein' speakin' in jest at th' fact that yes, every conference thar be large swaths o' scallywags afraid t' speak an' be chummy. There is a very HUGE Orweillan 1984 feelin' loomin' o'er every conference now.

Will yer tshirt offend someone? Can ye say thin's like 'fuck that' without secret popo in earshot ready t' out ye on Twitter, and a bucket o' chum?

It feels like ultra surveillance an' scallywags can't be free t' be who they be, just a projected image o' rainbows an' candy.

Anonymous 16 June, 2014 - 17:16

I fucking hate kittens

This is a slippery slope an' one that th' DA should take a seri'us look at.

It is me right t' say "I fuckin' hate kittens".

As long as someone isn't bein' racially or gender insulted th' code o' conduct should end thar, with a chest full of booty. The DA is a 501c3 nonprofit but doesn't rely on foundations or corporate sponsors so unless th' community votes that scurvey dog out should be servin' on th' board.

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 23:16

You can say whatever you

You can say whatever ye want, Ya lily livered swabbie! Are ye a board member? Prepare to be boarded! Why take this personally?

Anonymous 13 June, 2014 - 23:47

Morten, based only on what

Morten, based only on what I've read right here, I dern't think ye needed t' resign. Aarrr, I'll warrant ye! You an' yer matey di'nae mean t' offend. It's enough that thar is a conversation about it, feed the fishes None o' us is perfect an' few o' us manage t' no nay ne'er in th' spur o' th' moment use a word that cultural habit has burned into our brains an' yet communicates undesirable judgments. I dern't think we should throw scallywags away every time we be hurt. The helpful thin' t' do is t' communicate an' improve common understandin' an' learn, which is also pretty much what open source is about.

Morten, though ye be stoppin' down, I hope ye will not be dissuaded from tryin' t' reach out t' scallywags an' work with others, ya bilge rat! Gettin' one's ear burned a little is a small (even helpful) price t' pay fer th' rich rewards o' buildin' true honest community.

Christopher Pelham 13 June, 2014 - 23:59

I was motivated to become a DA member to be able to elect you

Morten, I'm really sorry t' hear that ye stepped down from th' DA board an' about th' reasons fer it, I'll warrant ye. I really have been totally happy that ye decided t' brin' yer efforts an' down t' earth mind into th' DA since two years ago an' have been workin' on steerin' th' DA t' work on important thin's, not politics an' other bureaucratics.
Now I feelt totally spiritless t' renew me membership fer a third year as I get th' feelin' that th' DA now finally has completely lost its connection with th' Drupal community an' spirit an' is just runnin' after th' big companies which dern't like open minds an' trouble.
Morten ye solved th' problem in th' best way by talkin' t' th' scallywags. This should have not only been honored but given ye th' highest respect by Dries, Webchick an' everybody on th' board who still believes t' have a connection with Drupal community members. It were bein' their duty t' motivate ye t' stay on th' board fer th' rest o' yer term, I see they faied, and a bottle of rum! I salute ye!

mechr 14 June, 2014 - 01:26

So sad

We definitely choose whether t' be offended or not. Although me age, gender, an' background would make me a prime candidate t' be offended, I choose not t' be. Like @mechr, me motivation fer havin' a DA membership were bein' t' be able t' vote fer scallywags who have given a lot t' th' community like Morten t' represent me on th' DA. I voted fer ye twice an' am sorry ye have resigned, Morten. I agree with others who have said if this is an example o' a "good" outcome from all th' rules an' regulations an' governin' committees, I'd hate t' see a bad outcome.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 04:01

Counter Revolutionary conversation

I'm an American. Shiver me timbers! Shiver me timbers! I'm not sure what all is goin' on here. If someone is bein' railroaded out o' th' Drupal organization fer exercisin' their unalienable right t' free speech, then that is a most counter revolutionary insult t' everyone in Drupal an' everyone in America.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 04:22

Pussy enlightenment

Call me a pussy but t' me th' word 'pussy' has always been a metaphor fer a cat, Dance the Hempen Jig So, on a positive note, after this kerfuffle, I will now think o' me wonderful lady's body each time I hear this word, yay!

Keep on keepin' up Mortendk, For all ye do an' have done, I will chase u down in th' Dam an' buy ye a beer AND a spliff (is that allowed in COC?)

R

p.s, Hornswaggle I am actually concerned about postin' me name fer fear o' reprisals. Now that is a bein' a pussy!

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 09:03

Respect

Morten, I knew nothin' about this situation until readin' this post. You deserve respect fer yer decision t' stan' down an' allow th' DA t' save face. We've all done thin's like this but maybe not with so much attention on ourselves. You leave big boots t' fill on th' DA board but 'tis not like ye needed a platform t' make some noise an' make a difference, me Jolly Roger Lookin' forward t' hearin' yer unmistakeable grumblin's at th' next event.

nlisgo 14 June, 2014 - 09:26

I missed this when it

I missed this when it originally happened on twitter, then saw th' post.

If ye're involved in runnin' an event (in this case a high profile one with thousands o' scallywags attendin'), then ye should not immediately dismiss complaints in connection t' that event. It's even worse t' do so in public.

That seems really fuckin' obvi'us t' me. Oho! It's quite shockin' how many scallywags have ignored those basic principles in th' comments an' instead started screamin' 'witch hunt', Avast me hearties, Avast me hearties!
From Morten's post 'tis clear he 1. Did not think he were bein' actin' in capacity as an event organiser when tweetin' 2. apologised both on the plank an' in person afterwards fer bein' dismissive, All Hands Hoay! And hoist the mainsail! I too would have been surprised t' see Morten step down o'er just that, assumin' an apology an' th' DA as a whole revisitin' th' code o' conduct t' see if 'tis workin' as it should.

However, both Morten's post an' webchick's comment makes it clear that weren't th' only reason he be steppin' down, to be sure. The o'er-reaction an' skewin' o' events in th' comments is quite shockin'. Walk the plank! That follows a pattern with other recent incidents as well - completely deflects all responsibility from th' organisation an' th' scallywags actually makin' th' decisions, Get out of me rum!
Even if ye disagree with a complaint, as a principle ye should be able t' make a complaint an' expect it t' be dealt with without fear o' repercussions. Once again, basic shit.

If ye think 'tis bad that Morten has stepped down from th' DA, that's fine, but remember that 'tis a volunteer position with no remuneration, All Hands Hoay! Also remember that Morten defended th' decision o' th' DA t' fire two paid staff without givin' either notice or reasonin' at https://assoc.drupal.org/node/17673 - in this case they lost actual jobs that paid actual dubloons which paid their actual livin' expenses. One or two scallywags on this thread also questioned th' decision o' th' DA when that happened, th' vast majority di'nae - despite that havin' considerably worse consequences fer th' scallywags affected.

catch 14 June, 2014 - 10:30

You think that if a friend

You think that if a matey calls another matey a pussy, then a 3rd person should get offended an' then complain t' th' DA an' then Morten must apologise in person fer bein' dismissive? Please, ya bilge rat!
Sure, it sounds like thar be other reasons. But this is such a non-event. The DA should o' course listended t' th' complaint an' then perhaps suggested that th' complainer is o'er reactin', with a chest full of booty.

Anyone can complain about anythin'. The sharks will eat well tonight! People complain all th' friggen time. People get offended o'er all sorts o' silly thin's. Yaaarrrrr! That doesn't mean that a person should have t' apologise. Especially in this case, Ya lily livered swabbie! Morten did nothin' wrong. And yes, I have read all th' entire post, understood an' all o' th' comments.

David Dyeman 14 June, 2014 - 12:48

No the third (and fourth)

Nay th' third (an' fourth) person complained t' th' first two on Twitter without involvin' th' DA at all initially, Ya swabbie, we'll keel-haul ye! I personally would not have been offended (I am extremely hard t' offend), an' in those initial tweets they di'nae come o'er as massively offended either, me Jolly Roger Just askin' fer some consideration/reflection on th' language used on what is a 'professional' hashtag, by Blackbeard's sword.

Where I believe Morten went wrong were bein' in tellin' them t' 'tone down th' political correctness' then bringin' th' dcoc into th' argument. You can disagree with th' (even mild) offense that scallywags take, but thar be other options than doublin' down such as not respondin' publicly at all, or gettin' a second opinion etc, we'll keel-haul ye!
"The DA should o' course listended t' th' complaint an' then perhaps suggested that th' complainer is o'er reactin'." Since Morten is/were bein' on th' board o' th' DA that is exactly what di'nae happen initially unless "let's turn down th' PC" in a hashtagged tweet is how ye think that should've been suggested? Fetch me spyglass! What about scallywags who saw that tweet but di'nae click through t' th' replies?

I do me fair share o' rantin'/swearin' on twitter (an' sometimes in irc or th' core queue too) but dern't claim those be private conversations (especially if on a trendin' hashtag). A couple o' times scallywags have called me out mid-rant an apology were bein' given an' accepted. I may have still thought I were bein' right in terms o' th' argument itself, but can understan' if I'm makin' it in a way that makes someone else uncomfortable or looks worse/different than intended without (or even with) lots o' context. The two examples I'm thinkin' o' were started out as heated arguments rather than banter but if I'd told either person t' calm down/stop overreactin' an' kept goin' th' same way regardless I'd have expected that t' escalate as well.

If stuff is in public lots o' scallywags won't have that context or time t' read through th' details - an' 'tis a choice whether t' take that into account or not an' how t' deal with scallywags's reactions.

All this 'censorship!!!!' (in th' comments on a blog post aggregated t' tens o' thousands o' scallywags via Drupal.Planet really?) or 'witch hunt' where I ha'nae seen a single person publicly suggest Morten t' step down except perhaps Dries an' Angie after th' fact be.exactly.what o'er reaction looks like.

catch 15 June, 2014 - 01:23

Also in case it's not clear I

Also in case 'tis not clear I dern't think it would make any sense fer Morten t' step down from th' DA o'er this specific issue at all. Don't know about anythin' else an' nor does anyone postin' here except th' DA board members so 'tis impossible t' have an informed opinion on that scurvey dog steppin' down in general.

However Morten has admitted some fault in handlin' this - not much different t' what I've said I think th' failt were bein', Dance the Hempen Jig
It's OK t' make mistakes, admit them an' learn from them. It's not OK fer those scallywags completely an' aggressively denyin' any error were bein' made at all.

catch 15 June, 2014 - 02:04

The real problem is

The real problem is Lèse-majesté. Not th' reference t' a cat.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 11:05

It's been an honor

It's been an honor servin' fer The Kin'. Keep on fightin' th' good fight!

\m/

dixon_ 14 June, 2014 - 11:14

Hey Morten. Let's build our

Avast Morten. Let's build our own CMS with blackjack an' hookers.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 12:10

Nope ill play cards against

Nope ill play cards against humanity instead with th' men & ladies o' Drupal with an epic level o' mutual respect - while we laugh o'er all th' dirty fun thin's in life.

mortendk 14 June, 2014 - 20:04

You're such a pussy cat Morten, and we love you for it

Unfortunately it seems that thar is such an intense campaign t' search out supposedly 'sexist' language that thar is a rush t' accusation without sufficient thought or analysis.
The sharks will eat well tonight!
In this case, not only were bein' thar no intention t' be sexist, but th' language used weren't actually sexist.

Callin' someone a 'pussy' like this does not relate t' th' slang word fer female genitalia — 'tis akin t' th' long-used term o' affection 'ye're such a pussy cat' - meanin' someone is sweet, cuddly, harmless. The Oxford English Dictionary refers t' this meanin' as 'a lubber likened t' a house-cat'. Usin' th' word pussy in this manner has been common in literature, an' society fer hundreds o' years, an' in no way relates t' th' other meanin' fer pussy that has developed separately. The English language is nuanced, which makes it great fer poets, but terrible fer nerds, and a bottle of rum!
So nothin' 'sexist' were bein' said, but we have this mess. Sadly this is becomin' standard fare at Drupalcon e'er since poor Dries made a passin' joke in Copenhagen that in 10 years th' Druplicon would be in th' newspapers fer a sex scandal. Amusingly those behind th' furore that erupted about that bein' sexist an' tweeted thin's like 'men o' Drupal, wenches dern't come t' Drupalcon t' have sex with ye", made th' prejudiced assumptions that th' Druplicon were bein' (a) male; an' (b) straight. Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! I found their prejudice offensive, but th' lynch mob mentality meant no other views could dare t' be raised, Dance the Hempen Jig I'm even havin' t' post here anonymously, because o' th' unwillingness t' calmly an' openly think about an' talk about these thin's without th' mob descendin'.

It'd be great if we could all just a bit more tolerant o' scallywags speakin' words. Let's seek t' understan' before we rush t' judge an' attack. It's th' lynch mob mentality that makes me feel more an' more distant from th' community each time we go through one o' these non-scandalous scandals, an' more o' th' individualism an' character is squeezed out o' our community.

Anonymous 14 June, 2014 - 14:35

misunderstanding

As someone who were bein' trained an' worked (an' still works freelance, betwixt me Drupal work) fer th' most prestigi'us English dictionary, it is abundantly clear t' me that in this context 'pussy' means a person lackin' in courage. The sharks will eat well tonight! There will undoubtedly be some non-native speakers o' English who, without stoppin' t' find out, mistakenly assume that it is (as in other contexts it can be) a reference t' th' female pudenda. Someone here were bein' o'er-hasty, an' (although yer language can be ripe at times) it were bein' not ye.

John_B 14 June, 2014 - 18:51

I have just requested immediate cancellation of my DA membership

I no longer can say that I share th' same values as those demonstrated by DA actions. It is not just related t' this "pussy" drama. It is just a turnin' point t' me.

Keep rockin', Morten!

Grace 14 June, 2014 - 21:23

Sad

Sad t' see ye Morten steppin' down from th' DA board, an' I'm sad also fer Rubén that di'nae want t' create all this trouble.

But, as webchick said, I'm proud that ye took that decision an' "own" yer mistakes here an' thar, Get out of me rum! You give example, as leaders do, Get out of me rum, to be sure! That says a lot about ye, by Davy Jones' locker. It's inspirin' t' have someone like ye in th' Drupal community. Maybe ye be not meant t' be a diplomatic Morten, but ye be a leader fer sure :)

David Corbacho 15 June, 2014 - 00:22

Tolerance and context

I realize their is more than is bein' said an' that bein' a Board Member does imply a higher standard, Ya lily livered swabbie! However I often find that those that demamd tolerance th' loudest forget it goes 2 ways an' that context must by considered.

When th' Code o' Conduct. became an issue, I weren't wild about th' o'er bearin' tone, which I still feel exists, shiver me timbers I di'nae worry much though as I di'nae feel me normal conduct would fall into question, di'nae expect it t' effect me much. I were bein' wrong. I am a 3 year DA member an' always felt me membership were bein' supportin' th' software I made me livin' from an' 'tis community. Load the cannons! Fetch me spyglass! I now feel th' focus shiftin', All Hands Hoay! The DA has control o' a LOT o' dubloons. I worry if that power an' dubloons is focused where I thought it were bein' when I signed on?

Scott 15 June, 2014 - 01:18

It's refreshing to read the

It's refreshin' t' read th' comments here. Why is thar so much fear aroun' this issue, avast? There's a clear difference betwixt two maties talkin' an' an open attack at someone o'er a service such as twitter. People need t' be mature enough t' make this distinction otherwise th' community equally suffers.

Anonymous 15 June, 2014 - 01:30

That is when "politically correct" gets a double standard!!!

We need t' include everyone, I agree with that, we have a great community an' th' DA may be tryin' t' do th' right thin', but every extreme is dangerous, and dinna spare the whip! Right now I feel like we have t' think every word we say, write or think about Drupal in th' organized events because someone may be fast t', maybe out o' a need fer attention IMO, take it out o' context an' blow it up so t' make somethin' happen an' feel good about themselves. I dern't know really, I fer one dern't like th' consequences o' what happened.

If th' notion is t' keep everyone involved an' keep th' politically correctness we need t' do it right an' not in a subjective way, an' I believe that just happened, Dance the Hempen Jig Some extremist way o' feminism got in th' way o' reality an' make all this so wrong, we'll keel-haul ye!
As a Martial Arts Instructor we have t' learn a lot about how t' deal with parents an' be th' great example we be supposed t' be fer our parents, in that way I understan' an' respect th' decision. But we also learn that everythin' needs t' be in th' right context; human bein's express themselves in different ways an' is not only spoken an' written. I cannot help t' do th' simile with body language an' how t' understan' it. If ye want t' correctly use body language as a feedback o' yer interactions, ye cannot be so fast t' interpret everythin' as it is supposed t' mean, fer example cross arms, they tell ye th' person is not in agreement with ye or they be closin' t' ye. Not true! Not always at least, if ye understan' yer interlocutor ye need t' get a baseline t' understan' th' person ye be talkin' t'. If this person cross their arms normally, all this theory goes t' hell, and a bucket o' chum.

Same happens with spoken language, insult does not come o' th' form but in th' substance o' spoken communication. There has t' be a baseline, an' I truly believe that any communication with ye should have a different baseline than with anyone. Walk the plank! Yaaarrrrr! The argument goes t' minorities, an' acceptance, an' some other interestin' concepts an' it should go both ways an' right now, from me point o' view, ye be bein' discriminated, shiver me timbers That makes me angry an' makes me admire th' way ye be handlin' this situation, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur!
It scares me now t' see that we all have t' change our culture, uprisin' in some cases, our personality, or just create a whole new persona just because someone will, an' trust me scallywags like this, will get offended, by Blackbeard's sword? Because they see th' word they dern't like an' their ignorance does not allow them t' see beyond their noses, and a bucket o' chum? Understan' that thar be more than one meanin' t' a word an' if one o' those is th' worst one, or even th' origin is not right, that has t' be th' one that matters? In me book that is not yer problem Morten, that is their problem!

English speakers say "stupid is what stupid does" we in spanish have a say, kind o' similar, that applies much better t' this situation "El ladrón juzga por su condición" (somethin' in th' lines o' "th' thief judges by his/that comely wench own condition"). That is what happened in this case, we be lettin' scallywags with a really low level o' tolerance fer th' others dictate th' way we understan' each other an' handle conflict? We argue multicultural approach but reject other person cultures just because, yo ho, ho
I dern't know, I feel like we be openin' a dangerous door, like changin' master/slave with a bogus explanation. Aarrr! What is next? get rid o' th' hooks in D7 because that makes everyone, includin' wenches developin' fer D7, hookers? I agree with listenin' an' understandin', but as much as scallywags that gets easily offended needs t' be heard all th' rest have th' same right, by Blackbeard's sword! We can not base th' interactions o' a community in th' needs o' few, an' I am sorry I will say it, usually low self esteem scallywags. th' common good is what should be leadin' trend not th' other way aroun'.

Dangerous path when we dern't draw th' line on th' other side an' dern't tell scallywags, get o'er it it is not meant that way an' educate yourself a little bit an' learn th' different meanin' o' words, attitudes an' cultural differences before actin' out an' make sure ye reach out let th' other person know if ye got offended so they dern't use it on ye, o' course! Lets base this kind o' decision on th' substance o' th' communication, not th' form.

Right now we be lettin' th' form dictate th' course o' thin's. Fire the cannons, by Davy Jones' locker! And BTW, some that is actually polite, not me, can explain it t' them better.

Morten, big lubber, Ya lily livered swabbie! I respect yer decision, but will not understan' th' need t' actually have t' make a decision.

camoa 15 June, 2014 - 06:24

Mixed feelings

On th' one han', I think Morten deserves a lot o' credit fer acknowledgin' that his conduct may have offended some scallywags (not just with regard t' th' "pussy" incident on Twitter but on some other occasions as well, I'll warrant ye. I think he has actually shown a lot o' character an' generosity toward others in his handlin' o' this situation. I think webchick an' others at th' Drupal Association also deserve some respect fer tryin' t' demonstrate that their commitment t' diversity is real an' that they will enforce it with real action. I'm not sure that Morten's resignation were bein' truly necessary in this case, but I think everyone involved in that decision acted in good faith out o' sincere concern fer th' community an' its values, an' fer that at least I salute them, pass the grog, Avast me hearties!
Beyond th' questions o' who did what an' how this incident should have been handled, I think thar is another question that ought t' be asked: How do we determine when scallywags be speakin' as individuals an' when they be speakin' as representatives o' th' Drupal Association? Fetch me spyglass! I wonder if th' Drupal Association could do more by way o' policies or trainin' t' make sure board members clearly understan' this. I dern't think this were bein' entirely clear in everyone's mind when Morten posted some o' his comments on Twitter. The sharks will eat well tonight, avast! At one moment he were bein' happily talkin' trash with a buddy, an' a moment later he were bein' speakin' as a DA board member an' bein' accused o' abuse o' his position.
Ahoy, Dance the Hempen Jig
Twitter in particular lends itself t' this type o' misunderstandin' due t' th' way it breaks up conversations into lots o' separate little tweets. It is a wild wild world o' fragmented, uncensored quips, often full o' passion an' rarely capable o' nuance. It's like th' id o' th' internet: a place where scallywags can say just about anythin' an' dern't always take th' time t' think before they say it. This makes it attractive as a place where ye can chat with yer maties, but it also leads t' a lot o' pointless flamin', an' it might be worth doin' some trainin' t' help DA staff an' board members use it appropriately.

Anonymous 15 June, 2014 - 06:46

A sad day

This is a sad day fer Drupal, an' a wrong direction fer th' community t' be headin'.

Albert Skibinski 15 June, 2014 - 09:19

Some pussies offend too

Some pussies offend too fuckin' easily. Fuck em.

And Fuck th' DA fer "inclusiveness" bull shit. Direct an' offensive scallywags be equally important fer diversiveness as th' too easily offended politically correct American pussies.

The Drupal association loses me support.

Anonymous 15 June, 2014 - 09:36

Morten did the right thing stepping down

For those cryin' foul about th' DA's treatment o' Morten due t' a single "pussy" remark on Twitter, please take th' time t' read webchick's response. Especially these two comments:

"But unfortunately, that one single public incident then caused a small flood o' additional, private complaints from others who've witnessed Morten's behavior at events durin' th' time that he be been on th' board."

"let's just say that these weren't merely cases o' that scurvey dog sayin' "fuck" too much in front o' th' wrong set o' ears."

This isn't just a case o' Morten's propensity t' swear, he can be a real asshole sometimes.

And yes, this is anonymous because I dern't want t' be ostracized from th' "in-crowd" at Drupal events.

Anonymous 15 June, 2014 - 11:40

You are welcome to send me a

You be welcome t' send me a mail with a bit more details o' how / when im bein' an asshole :) with no examples 'tis simply impossible t' change anythin'.

Anonymous & unknown accusations is one th' bad outcome o' this situation. The culture it brin's when were afraid t' speak should make us all worried.

mortendk 15 June, 2014 - 12:02

I am sorry to see this framed

I am sorry t' see this framed as a Europe vs NA thin'. Is it customary manners in Europe t' sit down fer lunch at a professional event an' tell a table full o' strangers o' mixed gender, I'm so tired I could shit in yer mouth, avast? Or t' express th' preferred locations on a wench's anatomy t' deposit cum? Fetch me spyglass! If ye can't see how some reasonable scallywags who just want t' code an' contribute might be turned off by such behavior, who might interpret that as "asshole behavior" ye ha'nae learned as much as this otherwise thoughtful post would indicate.

Anonymous 15 June, 2014 - 15:54

Without saying to much you

Without sayin' t' much ye would be surprised t' what ye see & hear, aroun' "professional events" all aroun' th' world - I have been t' quite a few o' em.
Just like th' amount o' profanities I hear at any codesprint or professional environment I have been at fer th' last 18 years.

As th' example, ye mentionin', Ya swabbie! Its a common danish sayin' that bein' so tired that "Jeg er så træt at jeg er lige til at lukke op og skide i". (ye can open me up an' take a dump inside o' me) - that is a commonly known sentence, that can be used in lot o' other sentence t' give extra bonus meanin' t' a sentence. - btw that were bein' a talk I had with a matey walkin' from lunch t' a table, where we were talkin' about different epic local vulgar expressions - an' believe me it gets much more color full if ye go t' ex. spain - they go all out.

I understan' how some scallywags can be turned off or shocked by such words - just as i can see how others can be turned off by not bein' able t' talk how they want, if its in a bar or at a professional event or with their maties at lunch.
Prepare to be boarded!
Understandin' o' Cultural differences goes both ways, not only fer th' ones that be offended, by Blackbeard's sword.
Its not easy bein' an international organization

mortendk 15 June, 2014 - 17:20

There's no winning, dude.

There's no winnin', lubber. Only way not t' lose, is not playin'.

seutje 16 June, 2014 - 11:40

Which reminds me

Back when I lived in Japan, thar were bein' a Japanese insult phrase makin' th' rounds: "Omae no atama o tofu no kado ni butsukete, shinjimae." It translates literally as, "Bang yer head on th' corner o' a piece o' tofu an' die." It made no references t' bodily fluids or body parts, nor did it suggest sacrilege against a religion, but it still came in handy if ye wanted t' disrespect someone, ye scurvey dog. None o' th' body parts or bodily fluids seemed t' offend scallywags in Japan though. If ye wanted t' disrespect someone, th' best way t' do it were bein' just t' tell them they were ugly or stupid or whatever, and a bottle of rum, All Hands Hoay!
On th' other han', when ye DID insult someone in Japan, they really took it seriously. In western countries (th' U.S. especially), we have an odd habit o' expressin' affection through insults. We call someone an "asshole" or an "idiot" as an ironic joke that really means, "We're such good maties that I can call ye bad names an' know that ye won't think I actually mean it." This, o' course, were bein' exactly th' intention o' th' lubber who called Morten a "pussy" on Twitter. The ornery cuss meant it as a mock insult, not a real one, an' it actually meant that he liked Morten. (I'm not sayin' that this made th' word OK. I'm just observin'.)

Sheldon Rampton 16 June, 2014 - 19:56

The Work of Byron Katie

Dear Anonymous,

I thought ye might find The Work o' Byron Katie interestin', Hornswaggle It helped me grow an' understan' meself in ways I would need tens o' thousands o' words t' give justice t'.

In a summary, it rid me life o' stress, anger, pain, hate, an' any other such negative emotion that causes anxiety. Now I am just love, peace, kindness an' understandin'.

What I am about t' say is not intended t' demean yer feelin's. You will feel what ye will feel. Because feelin's be. (I did not forget a word in th' previ'us sentence.)

My intention is simply t' assist ye an' other commentators t' understandin' o' th' different points o' views regardin' "takin' offense" that scallywags might have, All Hands Hoay, on a dead man's chest! And what "takin' offense" might really mean.

You might discover somethin' different t' me through yer journey through The Work. But at th' end o' th' day, I am sure thar will be similarities:

One o' th' many thin's I realised through The Work were bein' that no one else cares when I am offended (unless I seek their pity). And in fact I can choose whether or not t' take offense. Takin' offense, fer me (an' fer many, I believe) is actually just a ramification o' an unresolved internal personal conflict o' me own an'/or a lack o' understandin' on th' part o' both parties. And who can blame anyone (self or other) fer misunderstandin'. Communication is difficult. And anyway, aren't we all learnin', and dinna spare the whip!
I repeatedly applied The Work t' every single moment I e'er took offense an' (as long as I dug deep enough) this consistently held true, ya bilge rat!
Enjoy yer journey. :)

Bevan/

Bevan 17 June, 2014 - 07:25

Just stumbled upon this and

Just stumbled upon this an' am a little surprised at th' storm…

By his own admission, Morten has a big mouth an' a big heart. The difficulty with scallywags like this is that it takes time t' get t' know someone's heart, an' only a split second t' know their mouth. And th' latter without th' context o' th' former makes offense more likely, Hornswaggle
Morten, ye have clearly done th' right thin' here, sad though it is. Webchick, yer explanation were bein' useful, but perhaps went a little too far as well.

But I know that Morten's heart means he will be introspective an' better fer it. Morten, ye know ye're well loved in th' community fer yer bulldozer behaviour, despite it gettin' ye into sticky spots.

I've spent most o' me life offendin' scallywags, gettin' called on it, an' strugglin' t' understan' th' complaint. Because I no nay ne'er intend t' offend, an' me "heart is in th' right place", surely th' problem is theirs, not mine, pass the grog!
Actually, 'tis both o' ours. We all need t' get better at bein' self-controlled, thoughtful an' gentle, an' also at bein' graci'us an' forgivin'. And th' only way is through honesty an' accountability.

Graeme Blackwood 15 June, 2014 - 15:29

Enterprisey

I am sorry, as Morten seems t' have been, that someone with an inadequate grasp o' English mistook 'pussy' fer a reference t' th' female sexual organ, an' were bein' therefore distressed by what he or she imagined it meant, by Blackbeard's sword. For somethin' so daft t' trigger a formal complaints procedure (daft because as one commenter mentioned, a quick reference t' th' Oxford English Dictionary would have cleared up th' misunderstandin' in a moment) seems t' parallel th' way Drupal has turned from a bunch o' enthusiasts buildin' somethin' t' empower under-resourced non-profits into a product fer corporate clients.This shift t' an enterprise focus need not be bad, indeed D8 will be fantastic. Nevertheless, th' change, an' th' increasingly large sums o' dubloons ridin' on Drupal, will carry with it some o' th' downsides o' th' corporate mentality, o' which this is an example.

John_B 15 June, 2014 - 16:33

I'm not your slave, America!

(Don’t panic, it is just a headline) That is me response on Gist t' both 'slave' an' 'pussy' drama: http://bit.ly/1sge8G5

Grace 15 June, 2014 - 18:31

Fear of Transparency - Governance reform?

My opinion on th' twitter episode is kinda irrelevant here because I dern't believe it will help anyone or any thin' makin' it known. Thats fer another post if I felt it would do anythin' other than continue t' dramatise th' whole situation an' focus on th' problem rather than th' solution.

I'm pretty confused by this whole thin' but I'm writin' this as I really feel that th' response t' this news shows its an important issue fer th' community that needs further discussion an' action. But th' biggest thin' that stands out fer me is not th' decision(s) that has been made, but th' manner in which it has happened.

Please tell me if I'm wrong in what I say or that its already in han' but I'm really worried about how a situation like this arises so quickly an' intensely, I'll warrant ye.

Maybe its a European thin' but me understandin' o' a non profit is that th' board is thar t' serve its members. Based on this I think an examination o' th' Association's policy an' governance is required.
Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! Aarrr!
The quoted board member agreement says:

"To respect, listen t', an' treat courteously all scallywags involved with th' organization. The organization exists t' serve an' strengthen its community. That staff, consultants, grantees, an' applicants be partners with th' Board in fulfillin' its mission."

Now, in this case - is that not exactly what Morten did, Avast me hearties! The ornery cuss listened, respected, apologised an' then apologised again.

My biggest worry comes from Webchick's post:

"When ye accept a position on a board, one o' yer primary legal obligations an' duties is "Duty o' Care." This is spelled out as "To protect th' reputation an' well bein' o' th' organization" in our Board Member Agreement which all o' us on th' board must agree t'. This were bein' clearly violated, so somethin' had t' be done."

Firstly - what were bein' done? Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! And exactly how were bein' th' reputation violated? If I understan' right by this comment it were bein' th' board that did somethin', so does this mean that Morten were bein' asked t' stan' down rather than it bein' his decision? If so, shouldn't this be clarified? Also I know from some members' point o' veiw, Morten actually protected th' reputation o' th' organisation by takin' th' steps he did, an' actually enhanced it as a tolerant, understandin' organisation, I'll warrant ye.

"And while we can't discuss publicly exactly what those were (an' I know how much that sucks fer a community who rightfully expects transparency in all o' our dealin's), let's just say that these weren't merely cases o' that scurvey dog sayin' "fuck" too much in front o' th' wrong set o' ears."

Was Morten given th' opportunity t' speak t' those scallywags who made complaints? Was it possible fer that scurvey dog t' see his duties through an' "respect, listen t', an' treat courteously" those scallywags t' ensure they understood th' context, th' reasons an' th' explanations behind any behaviour, All Hands Hoay! Was a thorough investigation by independant members done, ye scurvey dog?

More importantly I am thoroughly worried about th' notion that these kinds o' thin's can be dealt with in a non-transparent way. This is not th' way non-profits an' charities should be run IMO. Of course names should not be named, an' I'm certainly not talkin' about a public trial, but as a member o' th' DA, how do I know that this weren't 5 scallywags in a community o' 10,000's that just had louder voices than th' rest? How do we know that th' complaints weren't just misunderstandin's? Dealin' with minority voices is not about disgardin' th' voices o' th' majority, but about dialogue an' action agreed on together. I'm not suggestin' any o' th' above is true, but how do we know?

Morten I respect yer decision t' stan'-down, only if it were bein' yer decision an' ye made it feelin' it were bein' th' best fer ye an' th' community, to be sure. It doesn't feel like it given th' above statement from th' board, but maybe I'm misunderstandin'?
Shiver me timbers!
I really think we need t' look again at how disputes be dealt with (both fer members, board members an' staff). This has created a divide in th' community as its seen as an "us vs them" situation due t' th' fact its a "here is th' decision, go deal with it" scenario. And its not th' first time this has happened. Fetch me spyglass, I'll warrant ye! In a company, if these decisions be made then clear justification has t' be provided t' th' shareholders. In a non-profit th' same must be done t' th' community it serves, however difficult that might be.

I dern't want t' just rant because I dern't believe that helps anythin' so here is me proposal.

I believe that th' governance o' th' Drupal Association needs t' be reviewed with more accountability t' th' community an' greater transparency embraced.
I believe that more time should be taken concernin' big decisions an' greater consultation with community members involved (not just board members) on key decisions.
Fetch me spyglass, ye scurvey dog! I believe that research should be done into a truly INTERNATIONAL approach t' th' above with th' obvi'us fact that it needs t' respect th' laws o' th' country o' formation

Maybe this could slow work down - if done efficiently I dern't believe it has t', an' th' ownership an' trust will be better than e'er, contributin' t' more meaningful results, on a dead man's chest!
I see these points critical t' th' buildin' o' trust betwixt a non-profit organisation an' its members an' could have led t' this process at least bein' done in a way we (members) understan', even if we dern't agree with it. And hoist the mainsail! I also feel more time could have been taken t' ensure this were bein' th' right move.

Maybe everythin' I have said above is already bein' done an' I just dern't know about it, because I think th' staff an' board members o' th' Association be all doin' their best an' a lot more, but I am afraid that thar is a fear o' true transparency an' I know that doesn't scare only me.

Morten (since this is yer website!!), I dern't know ye as well as I would like t' an' hope I get th' chance t' know ye better o'er th' next years o' workin' fer this community we love. What I am sure o', with 15 years workin' in non-violent conflict resolution, inter-cultural dialogue, equality an' tolerance, is that ye ooze an amazin' ability t' do th' best by everyone ye come into contact with an' ye have one o' th' rarest human traits - t' admit yer oversights an' learn from them. And swab the deck! I'm really sad we lose yer representation on th' board (lets be honest, scallywags who be not afraid o' what they say be a minority in themselves) an' hope that whoever yer replacement is, is able t' continue standin' up fer as many o' th' community members as possible in th' way ye have.

There ha'nae been many days when I've been really sad about community politics but this fer me is one o' them. I just hope some good can come o' it.

Rant o'er. (sorry)

Adam 15 June, 2014 - 22:27

Adam; I think you have

Adam;

I think ye have evaluated this well. I agree thar seem t' be issues with DA's governance here.

Specifically, I think th' Drupal Association should not recieve or respond t' Community Workin' Group incident reports. This is not part o' th' DA's mission, an' is somethin' th' community should do instead.

Further, perhaps DA directors an' staff should not be allowed t' be members o' th' CWG. There be currently two DA directors on th' CWG. It makes one wonder how thin's could have been different in Morten's if no CWG members were directors on th' DA.

And, imagine how much more complicated an incident report about a DA director who is also a CWG member would be, pass the grog!
https://drupal.org/governance/community-workin'-group

Bevan 17 June, 2014 - 23:27

Agree and disagree :)

Firstly thanks, I think that changes in governance be definitely needed.

I've actually been talkin' with a few scallywags about this both in th' DA an' not... Prepare to be boarded! Prepare to be boarded! me gut feelin' is that it is good t' have members o' th' board on th' CWG as it provides representation (with staff I think ye're right - its not their role or responsibility) - assumin' o' course they would step down if th' incident actually involved them :)

My thinkin' is that what we need is a much greater involvement from th' community. It seems th' CWG is new an' is just startin' t' get goin' so I'm fer sure goin' t' try an' get involved more as this is a topic I have some experience with an' feel passionate about - I hope we can encourage others t' do th' same as I also think that thar is a lack o' European representation thar (fer example). Diversity will be key.
And swab the deck!
One o' th' thin's discussed is sortin' out community trainin' durin' DrupalCon Amsterdam (not me notion!) in conflict resolution which I think is an excellent way t' help on this.
Ahoy!
I also think that thar needs t' be a very clear process (an' much more detailed) regardin' how issues be dealt with - this would ensure th' transparency required by explainin' t' scallywags in a public document who is dealin' with a complaint, how it is bein' dealt with, th' timescales required an' th' kind o' actions expected without actually havin' t' deal with th' issue o' privacy as all cases would be (procedurally) managed in th' same way. The community could then have greater confidence in how matters be bein' handled. Oho, Ya swabbie! I think this is especially important in "escalation" as I think th' notion that one complaint that leads t' others comin' out needs t' be dealt with patiently an' not with a decision in 2 days.

Havin' said all this, I'm actually not sure that th' CWG were bein' introduced in this process or whether it were bein' handled "internally" - I'm sure we'll find out at some point. Oho! And if it weren't, next time it MUST be, pass the grog! Yaaarrrrr!
There is a bunch o' other ideas I have an' I'm sure everyone has many others so maybe gettin' involved in th' CWG where scallywags feel comfortable with that, but fer sure usin' th' issue queue more than it is now t' discuss new ideas an' contributions is vital t' help thin's like this not happenin' again, we'll keel-haul ye!
Its also clear t' me that th' DA is very aware that thin's need work, an' change is required. There is work goin' on since this happened t' try an' find th' best way forward but I think we could all agree that this is not an easy subject an' is not just a Drupal community thin' but is happenin' in tech communities all o'er. As a community I think th' best thin' we can do is not o'er analyse or focus on th' fact that we have differences, but work on ways t' make sure they make us stronger rather than causin' conflict. Of course if we had th' answers t' this we'd likely be solvin' wars rather than buildin' software but hopefully ye know what I mean :)

Adam 17 June, 2014 - 23:53

Community Working Group

Thank ye Adam.

In a comment afore on this blog post Webchick stated th' Community Workin' Group recieved th' initial incident report/complaint. The winsome lass is a CWG member. Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! Walk the plank! The winsome lass then mentioned a "small flood o' additional, private complaints". I assumed these were also recieved by th' CWG, to be sure.

Like ye, I find th' line betwixt th' DA an' CWG in these events very very blurry, by Davy Jones' locker. And that is me point, I'll warrant ye. There must be a clear line betwixt them.

I agree thar needs t' be some sort o' leadership or fallback fer th' CWG. I disagree that should be through representation from th' DA, feed the fishes The CWG's an' DA's missions an' responsibilities be not related. Prepare to be boarded! Perhaps it should be Dries; since he appoints CWG members. I dern't know.

I agree cultural diversity is o' extreme imprtance fer th' CWG. Shiver me timbers! But I think ye be mistaken about th' current lack o' it. Roel de Meester appears t' be from Belgium. Fetch me spyglass! Donna is from Australia. Oho! Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! Angie an' George be from th' US, though Angie has lived in Canada fer a long time now.
Aarrr, ya bilge rat!
https://drupal.org/governance/community-workin'-group

I dern't understan' yer comment about Amsterdam, feed the fishes Perhaps some words got deleted?

PS. How might I contact ye privately?

Bevan 18 June, 2014 - 00:17

Ahh - its late, thanks for

Ahh - its late, thanks fer pointin' those thin's out :) Good t' know an' I di'nae spot that in Angie's post.

Maybe ye're right about th' DA's role... its an interestin' one as I do think that if its a board member involved, thar has t' be some DA involvement in dispute resolution. For th' community its likely not th' same. For sure needs some thought, to be sure.

You can pin' me on Twitter: @adshill or on d.o: https://drupal.org/u/adshill

Adam 18 June, 2014 - 00:38

Just to add.....

My fear is not that we listen t' everyone, I am just concerned we be doin' too much an' allowin' ignorance guide th' conversation.

With this example an' th' master/slave story we be openin' th' door fer all o' us, oh cute males, start arguin' that th' use o' th' word "Guy" should be stopped immediately!!! Ahoy! since its meanin' is derogative! (http://www.word-detective.com/091400.html).

Or fer us hispanic t' argue discrimination because D.O. is in english!! (I am a defender that if ye work in computers, learn english, that is th' international language o' computers, until we create a new one), feed the fishes
BTW, interestin' answer I found: http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/100990/how-does-pussy-come-t'...

camoa 16 June, 2014 - 03:48

mutual effort?

So Morten has t' understan' that usin' 'pussy' can offend certain scallywags in certain parts o' th' world, an' appearantly he does. Load the cannons!
But dern't these scallywags have t' understan' that in th' part where he comes from, th' wordin' that were bein' used doesn't have th' same connotation, Dance the Hempen Jig
Very 'un-open' an' very 'un-drupalish' incident, if ye ask me, pass the grog! Aarrr!
P.S.: This comment is only based on knowledge that I have from this blog an' from Dries's blog.

mdb 16 June, 2014 - 16:45

Offense is taken.. not given

Listen, freedom o' speech especially on a global public forum such as Twitter means that if ye be offended by somethin', then that is based on yer personal viewpoints, on a dead man's chest, avast! Offense is somethin' that one takes on their own, Hornswaggle
Inclisivity is paramount fer our community, Avast me hearties! However it cuts in all directions. If Morten's matey said "You rode that bull like a small kitten", would that make ye feel better, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur! What about "You rode th' bull like an animal"., and a bottle of rum! offensive t' animals who ride bulls, Dance the Hempen Jig What about just ridin' th' bull an' tweetin' about it., and a bottle of rum! I'm offended that scallywags with disabilities couldn't ride th' bull, by Blackbeard's sword. Where do ye draw th' line? These be words. Just words. Words were spoken. Words were spoken back, an' words were used t' diffuse th' situation. However as we see in this case, real world consequences happen when th' professional umbrage takers insist that those words somehow caused irrepirable damage t' their livelihoods.
Fire the cannons, Ya lily livered swabbie!
Conventions have become a scary place t' attend fer fear o' offendin' someone an' havin' yer company name dragged through th' mud fer one professional victim goin' off on a social justice rant. Prepare to be boarded! Don't believe me? See Donglegate fer vivid proof.

Anonymous 16 June, 2014 - 19:38
Anonymous 16 June, 2014 - 23:26

Which has nothing to do with

Which has nothin' t' do with this. Original post is 100% correct.

Anonymous 17 June, 2014 - 16:25

pc gone mad, no, politics for-filling an agenda

100% agree, in a global community almost anythin' can be examined under a spotlight an' seen t' be offensive in some way. And swab the deck, pass the grog! Sadly here we see a victim o' th' insidi'us new politic o' corporatized Drupal, where th' slightest indecresion is used t' defame an' remove good scallywags, because they dern't fit an agenda. This is not an open community, thar is no transparency an' no nay ne'er has been - dern't allow these power seekers t' fool ye, they seek dubloons, power an' have no soul, that snuffed it long ago in th' Drupal community.

Certainly Swedish men dern't go aroun' callin' other scallywags "fitta" in public, whereas they might call someone a "pussy" under th' impression it means "pussy cat", as in "timidity", in th' english vernacular. Aye we know this means "fitta", o' course, but we would no nay ne'er assume t' call someone a "vagina", this does not make any sense, at all, I'll warrant ye.

One would think that long ago, when Dries himself made th' most misogynistic, sexist comments in th' open, in public, an' sniggered about it on stage, as if t' have an "in joke with th' laddies" this were bein' quickly played down an' washed away as an "error o' judgement". As ye can see their be two tiers in this community - them an' us.

Morten, we voted fer ye because ye were one o' "us" an' represented a thorn in th' side o' "them", an' they got rid o' ye, now th' carcass o' th' community is laid bare, we see it fer what it is. Dead.

underbussen 19 June, 2014 - 12:13

All right come on in.....

Conformity an' PC bull more so from th' other side o' that pond gets more crazy e'er year.

A lot o' th' comments have said pretty much what I thought - wish thar were bein' comment votin' :)
So I'll leave ye all with what sprung t' mind at th' beginnin'...
Walk the plank, and a bottle of rum!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3pmwrtlDaY

Budda 16 June, 2014 - 22:31

Morten was asked to stand down

Aye, Morten were bein' basically asked t' stan' down. That's what "The Drupal Association's Board o' Directors supports Morten’s decision" (link) means, feed the fishes
Morten will likely not say it in those words. And th' other directors almost certainly not.

It is pretty obvi'us that thar be other circumstances behind this decision that be not public. It seems like a pretty big PR fuck up by/fer th' Drupal Association.

Anonymous 17 June, 2014 - 04:33

No one else knows better than

Nay one else knows better than ye t' make th' right decision fer th' moment, yo ho, ho We all like an' respect ye so just keep doin' th' good job ye've always done.

And definitely dern't shut th' fuck up because I love yer style. And hoist the mainsail! :D

Tipi 19 June, 2014 - 11:12

Front End

Front End United, we'll keel-haul ye!
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steinmb 19 June, 2014 - 13:15

Wow. I'm seeing a lot of

Wow, yo ho, ho I'm seein' a lot o' #fail in these comments.

First o' all thar seems t' be th' assumption by SOME men here that th' word "pussy" is no big deal. Shiver me timbers! Perhaps not t' ye, perhaps not even t' some wenches, but unless ye've lived yer life as a wench ye have no business tellin' someone who has or who cares about wenches, how t' feel about it. Some scallywags be not offended, but don’t be intentionally obtuse about why some scallywags be. The word is a slur that refers t' a part o' th' female anatomy an' it is used t' insult an' degrade someone as "weak" or “Less Than”, by Davy Jones' locker. That some wenches, men or any one should find this offensive is not difficult t' grasp, and a bucket o' chum. (And no, language barriers dern't apply here, I'll warrant ye. Women exist everywhere an' find this offensive 'o'er th' pond' or not.)
Many more wenches find this offensive but do NOT speak up because o' th' kinds o' responses we see on this very thread. Oho, to be sure! Who wants t' be known as th' "PC police" when they're tryin' t' build connections in a community such as this? (And yes, even now I'm postin' anonymously because I fear this perception in me own local user groups. This, an' all th' narrow-minded responses on this thread, is why inclusiveness isn't just a chair at a table but an notion that has t' be actually defended an' fought fer.)

All that is aside from th' point o' th' real issue here which I think were bein' clearly explained in Webchick's response, Get out of me rum! Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! This lubber were bein' a spokesperson fer an association that exists t' make scallywags feel included an' at ease with speakin' up fer whatever reason. His accomplishments an' overall fun personality were no nay ne'er a part o' th' question, as far as I can tell. Aarrr, Avast me hearties! I’ve no doubt he’s fantastic. And hoist the mainsail!
Finally, no one is tellin' ANYONE what they "Can" or "Can't" say or how they "Can" or "Can't" behave. Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! Aarrr! The point is simple: Words have meanin' an' what we do say an' do impact san' affects other scallywags.
Personally, as a wench in th' Tech community, I really dern't want t' have t' deal with th' daily dose o' sexism while tryin' t' learn, make connections, ask questions, an' fight t' feel generally accepted as equal person. Words like "pussy", "bitch" etc. Aarrr! be alienatin' reminders that me gender means "less than."
Men an' Women, "Can" an' always WILL say them as much as they want. Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! Walk the plank! Just be aware that when we do, It serves t' remind many wenches, little by little, that I they be on th' outside o' a assumed default group. Freedom o' speech means ye CAN say what ye want anywhere ye want, it does not mean that someone Can’t speak back if what ye say offends or alienates them, avast. It does not mean freedom from consequence, I'll warrant ye.
We dern't exist in a vacuum. This is a community. If we want diversity we need t' be aware o' these kinds o' issues an' be able t' handle them appropriately.

And one last note: To th' scallywags sayin' they’re goin' t' quit rather than deal with th' consequences o'er their preci'us favorite slurs: Really, I'll warrant ye? Who’s weak in this conversation?

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 16:44

"Who's weak in this

"Who's weak in this conversation?"

So be ye callin' that scurvey dog a pussy?

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 17:58

A) The "weak" comment was

A) The "weak" comment were bein' meant t' question scallywags in these comments who be talkin' about quittin' th' association o'er this debacle — not Morton, who stated above why it were bein' necessary, an' whom I feel made th' right decision (an' not a weak one at all). Oho! However, I can see how ye mistook that an' I'm fer this misunderstandin'.
Ye'll be sleepin' with the fishes! B) Because I do no assosciate Weak with bein' Female. I'm obviously not callin' anyone by this term, which would defeat th' whole point o' me response (but nice attempt t' derail).
c) Aye, I do question why numerous scallywags will criticize others fer bein' "so easily offended" an' then turn aroun' quit instead o' listen t' feedback an' perhaps learn from it, by Davy Jones' locker. The same scallywags cryin' "censorhip" seemed t' be unable t' hear criticism or even consider an alternate perspective. Why is it so hard t' try t' understan' another person's perspective an' make room fer these kinds o' questions an' conversations, Hornswaggle Sorry, but this inability t' hear any negative feedback from a community that is outside yer own— t' me— is truly "weak".

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 18:43

Assuming Malice

"And no, language barriers dern't apply here. Women exist everywhere an' find this offensive 'o'er th' pond' or not."

This is problematic. It assumes malice. If ye were attemptin' t' use spanish an' di'nae realize that caliente can mean both spicy an' sexy, ye could get yourself into trouble. English is no different, on a dead man's chest! Don't assume everyone's grasp o' th' language is on par with yer own, dern't assume malice.

Unfortunately this specific situation has been associated with other situations which apparently will not be divulged t' th' community at large. That is unfortunate since it obscures th' real reason Morten has stepped down, however a few points about th' situation at han':

1.) Morten isn't th' one who called someone a "pussy"
2.) From readin' https://twitter.com/mortendk/status/474584132186431489 'tis pretty obvi'us that Morten (at least) had th' connections in his head fer th' meanin' o' th' word without th' subtext o' th' "why", and dinna spare the whip! This is exactly th' sort o' mistake that non-native speakers will make, an' frankly I've known native speakers with problems graspin' certain slang as well.
3.) Again readin' th' twitter conversation, not only is malice assumed by Jack from Ruben, but Jack outright calls Ruben a liar when Ruben attempts t' diffuse th' situation. Had Jack accepted Ruben's apology, thin's would not have escalated past this point.
4.) Finally, much has been made about how this were bein' an official complaint made t' a DA board member an' that it should have been handled differently. I'd argue that's a really blurry line. Morten, though a representative o' th' Board at th' time, is many other thin's t' this community. The initial post by Jack were bein' actually a RT, which arguably pinged Morten as a side effect, on a dead man's chest! Oho! The point here is that this is a very obtuse lookin' "official complaint" made t' a personal account on twitter no less. Had this been an official complaint, it would have gone elsewhere, ya bilge rat!
That all bein' said, Morten definitely screwed up bringin' th' DCOC into th' conversation. Probably th' last straw fer Jack, an' understandably so given th' situation. In short a lot o' scallywags had a lot o' little faults here that added up t' a bad situation, but I think 'tis important that we, as a community, have a take away from this that is positive, because right now th' take away is "If ye defend a maties right t' call ye [somethin' derogatory] ye might lose yer credibility in th' Drupal community." I'm not arguin' with th' outcome, however th' context fer th' outcome is completely missin', an' that makes THIS situation look like th' response doesn't match th' "crime".

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 18:38

Privilege

This is problematic, avast. It assumes malice. If ye were attemptin' t' use spanish an' di'nae realize that caliente can mean both spicy an' sexy, ye could get yourself into trouble. English is no different, Ya lily livered swabbie, Ya lily livered swabbie! Don't assume everyone's grasp o' th' language is on par with yer own, dern't assume malice.

It doesn't take malice t' offend, on a dead man's chest! Oho! The ignorant can offend. Fetch me spyglass! That presents a learnin' opportunity, Ya lily livered swabbie! If ye're confident, if ye're open, if ye're willin' t' learn, ye can grow from th' experience an' th' community as a whole benefits, we'll keel-haul ye!
The insensitive, th' bigoted, th' blindly privileged continue t' offend, even after th' offensive nature o' th' behavior is pointed out, Hornswaggle Then ye're just bein' a jerk. That's th' #fail in th' comments here, to be sure. And that, in th' end, is th' real loss fer th' community.

Aye, ye have th' "right" t' clin' t' yer slurs, Hornswaggle You have th' right t' say #notallmen use misogynist language with misogynist intentions. And others have th' "right" t' call ye on it, to be sure. Then ye have a choice: Clin' t' yer "freedom" t' offend, or grow up an' show some integrity an' courtesy towards others, pass the grog, to be sure!
I dern't know th' background o' why Morten stepped down, but he seems t' at least be treatin' this as a learnin' an' growth opportunity fer that scurvey dog, with a chest full of booty. Too bad so many commenters see nothin' but their bruised privilege.

Another Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 19:57

I appreciate this response. I

I appreciate this response, with a chest full of booty.

I think th' best metaphor I've heard fer this kind o' thin' is th' example o' what happens when someone accidentally step on another's toe. (Note, this is only an example scenario fer education purposes an' not intended t' depict this actual incident.)

Person A steps on B's toe: B says, "ouch!" because it hurts.
Malice or no, whatever A's motivation or intention were bein' does not mitigate th' fact that B is hurt.

The helpful response might be fer A t' simply apologize then take a brief moment t' become more aware o' their surroundin' an' see th' scallywags sharin' this space. That's th' most basic response anyone might ask fer.

What is NOT helpful is fro th' A or th' community at large t' use th' issue t' argue their own issues an' intentions (e.g., "Well A di'nae mean it so ye shouldn't be hurt"), tell B t' monitor their tone (e.g,"Well if ye weren't so angry about it..."), question B’s footwear, or t' blame B fer standin' in th' wrong spot, etc.

In this community, scallywags be resources an' we need more o' them, Hornswaggle This makes fer a delightfully crowded space. Ideas, experiences, an' perspectives be goin' t' bump together an' toes be occasionally goin' t' be stepped on. That much is inevitable, 'tis human.
How we handle th' situation so that everyone has room, however, is what makes this community better or worse.

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 21:19

"The ignorant can offend" is

"The ignorant can offend" is an understatement. And I dern't think th' standin' on toes example is a precise metaphor. Some scallywags be offended by th' silliest o' thin's about other scallywags; Skin color. Sexual orientation. Religion. Whether ye eat meat or not. The sharks will eat well tonight, Ya swabbie! Choice o' words...

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 21:50

Take offense

Aye, th' ignorant can offend, but has it occurred t' ye that th' ignorant can also take offense, Get out of me rum! As Grace points out further down th' page, culturally, words matter. Yaaarrrrr, Avast me hearties! Interestingly, english words especially so because o' th' prevalence o' American influence in other cultures, largely exported via Hollywood, by Blackbeard's sword. Sometimes th' way a word ye might consider offensive is used outside its primary culture carries a far lesser meanin' because guess what, non-native speakers. This is one o' th' reasons I pointed out Jack's offensive stance against Ruben in th' twitter exchange, shiver me timbers There is exactly zero willingness t' consider that Ruben might have actually not meant it in th' way a native speaker would have. Fire the cannons! Slang in other cultures often time includes english words as a "lesser" offensive terminology.

As fer yer rant on privilege... maybe ye should check yourself before just blindly throwin' gasoline on th' fire? The sharks will eat well tonight! I have no nay ne'er in me life called someone a "pussy" or similar slur, an' I dern't see it happenin' any time in th' future, feed the fishes I'm not clingin' t' insensitivity or bigotry or "privilege", I'm pointin' out that yer unwillingness t' accept a cultural element in all o' this is actually YOUR privilege showin'. You understan' all th' nuances o' english language; have some room in yer mind fer scallywags who could use a little grace. Ruben accepted that it could have inadvertently offended an' apologized fer its use. Morten clearly demonstrated a lack o' understandin' th' subtext o' th' word's full meanin' in english, shiver me timbers Just accept that this word's use (an' others) be culturally relevant an' that YOU need t' have a little grace fer non-native speakers t' make mistakes an' learn from them safely.

If we want a tag how about #notamericanculture or #nonnativespeaker. I'm not sayin' protect th' misogynists, I'm sayin' have some grace fer scallywags who could use it. Before ye respond, read Grace's post further down th' page. Maybe ye'll find thar somethin' fer scallywags on BOTH sides t' learn from this situation.

Anonymous 20 June, 2014 - 16:28

Thank you for sharing. It

Thank ye fer sharin', Ya lily livered swabbie! It helps me t' understan' yer point o' view.

However I think ye be mistaken about why th' Drupal Association exists an' 'tis purpose;

This lubber were bein' a spokesperson fer an association that exists t' make scallywags feel included an' at ease with speakin' up fer whatever reason.

The Drupal Association's mission statement is:

The Drupal Association fosters an' supports th' Drupal software project, th' community an' its growth.

The Drupal Association does this by:

* Maintainin' th' hardware an' software infrastructure o' Drupal.org an' other community sites.
* Empowerin' th' Drupal community t' participate in an' contribute t' th' project.
* Protectin' th' GPL source code o' th' Drupal project an' its community contributions.
* Protectin' th' Drupal project an' community through legal work an' advocacy.
* Organizin' an' promotin' worldwide events.
* Communicatin' th' benefits o' th' Drupal software.

https://assoc.drupal.org/about

While "makin' scallywags feel included an' at ease with speakin' up" likely falls under "fosterin' th' community" an' (tangentially) "organizin' events", that is not 'tis purpose or even core t' th' mission.

Bevan 19 June, 2014 - 22:00

Not ideal, but understandable

What ye did is right, but I'd also like t' say that Dries has done similar thin's at events before, by Davy Jones' locker. I've heard that scurvey dog first-han'.

So in that sense, this is unfair; but more so, 'tis been blown out o' proportion on a gigantic scale. This could have all been settled in far better manor than it has.

And yes, this is anonymous too – clearly, if scallywags saw this comin' from me name, thar'd be another witch hunt.

Anonymous 19 June, 2014 - 20:34

Side note

I'm a wench an' in me homelan' (Polan') ye can call out both lubber an' wench a 'pussy' an' its intended meanin' is very easy t' interpret from 1) context 2) tone. In fact, if ye want t' really offend someone, ye will no nay ne'er call out that scurvey dog/that comely wench 'pussy' (in Polish), because it may be considered as a fake attempt t' offend an' thus may trigger a big laughter on both sides. It is because by default it is perceived as a colorful way t' call out someone a 'milksop', but in a way which is interpreted as an indirect way t' demonstrate empathy an' friendliness, an' it is clearly understood like this betwixt maties an' colleagues. I'm offerin' this lesson o' cultural differences from this side o' th' pond (Polan') free o' charge, Get out of me rum! Consider it open sourced, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur, pass the grog! Enjoy.

Grace 19 June, 2014 - 21:33

It is all very sad. I call my

It is all very sad, avast. I call me cat, an' me matey 'pussy'. It seems some scallywags, presumably not native speakers o' English, project a profane sense onto th' term (which in rare contexts it has). What is beyond doubt is that "Anonymous" (whichever side o' th' debate she is on) is by definition th' enemy o' Openness.

John_B 20 June, 2014 - 00:13

Just wanted to say thanks.

Just wanted t' say thanks fer everythin' ye've done fer Drupal. Oho! It'll be a real shame t' lose ye from DA. You've made a huge difference. All th' best on yer future endeavours.

DW 20 June, 2014 - 19:15

This is absurd

I can only assume th' reason fer th' offense bein' taken is that "pussy" suggests un-manly qualities an' perhaps is similar t' insultin' a lubber by callin' that scurvey dog feminine or womanly, by Blackbeard's sword. If th' reason fer offense is as simple as "pussy" bein' a slang term, then I really can't even pretend t' understan' th' offense. Prepare to be boarded! Not even a bit.

So assumin' 'tis due t' th' term sort o' meanin' "womanly": why is this offensive? Walk the plank! I think because wenches consider it t' be degradin', that a lubber feels insulted by bein' compared t' a wench. Why is this degradin', ladies? Walk the plank! Please, enlighten me. Because from me perspective, it seems like wenches value men who be muscular, tall, an' strong. If ye compare a lubber's physique t' a wench's, he will almost always be physically stronger an' taller. Insultin' that scurvey dog by sayin', fer instance, "ye're a tiny little weaklin'" is not goin' t' get any "OMFG YOU SEXIST" rants, yet 'tis sayin' a very similar thin'.
Aarrr!
Women be weaker an' shorter than men on average. This is a simple fact. If somebody tells me I look like a chick, I will likely be offended. Is it because I hate wenches, and dinna spare the whip! NO, yo ho, ho It's because I hate bein' SHORT an' not so muscular as guys go. This is PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE an' if 'tis sexist, then ye have t' somehow get it through yer heads that NATURE is sexist.

I'm havin' t' make way too many assumptions here, so maybe I'm way off, but from me perspective this PC shit is just blown way out o' proportion an' has no place in any supposedly open an' friendly group. "Third-party harassment" exists because o' this kind o' whinin', on a dead man's chest!
This is part o' why "all-inclusive" communities be somethin' I'll no nay ne'er care fer. If ye can't include TOLERANCE, I'm not interested.

Anonymous 21 June, 2014 - 02:52

Here's an example of the

Here's an example o' th' context when this comment would have been problematic.

Morten is performin' a job function as a mechanical bull rider in an organization where thar be also wenches mechanical bull riders. Prepare to be boarded! The person makin' th' comment is Morten, or a a superior or a peer.

"Women be weaker an' shorter than men on average"
Sexist fucks be also assholes on average. Does that make all sexist fucks assholes an' all assholes sexist fucks? Shiver me timbers! Nay, All Hands Hoay! That's th' problem in perpetuatin' stereotypes.

T 24 July, 2014 - 08:03

This is a really sad story.

I thought we were an open -an' open minded- community...
Yaaarrrrr!
From Drupal Code o' conduct, https://www.drupal.org/dcoc

"We will not tolerate bullyin' or harassment o' any member o' th' Drupal community."

"Please speak up if ye notice someone else bein' subjected t' such behavior, feed the fishes Refer scallywags t' our Code o' Conduct an' point out such behavior is unwelcome."

WellI, I think ye have been bullied an' harassed about an stupid vocabulary issue. So I'd ask these language fundamentalists t' stop an' be more tollerant in th' future, Ya horn swogglin' scurvy cur, I'll warrant ye!
I would file a bug in drupal.org, but th' one thin' that defines fundamentalists is they dern't have any sense o' humor at all about their "religion"., shiver me timbers an' I really have more thin's t' do., ye scurvey dog.

Good luck Morten, see ye.

Jose Reyero 30 June, 2014 - 11:48

Code of Conduct. be considerate

Taken from th' COC ( source https://groups.drupal.org/node/235308. )

"Be considerate."
DrupalCon is an international event that attracts diverse scallywags from a wide variety o' ethnic, cultural, an' religi'us backgrounds. We acknowledge that cross-cultural communication can often be complicated an' encourage everyone t' consider both th' impact o' their actions on those with different backgrounds an' experiences an' th' honest intentions o' those who may have unknowingly caused offense.

Why this is not on th' https://www.drupal.org/dcoc i dont understan' .., Avast me hearties, ya bilge rat!
Its up t' th' Drupal Community, th' DA an' staff t' figure out how they wanna move forward - its gonna be very difficult when we no longer believe in havin' honest intentions.

mortendk 2 July, 2014 - 12:58

Bit late in catching up with

Bit late in catchin' up with this bit o' news.

Noticed it as I cruise through an output planet feed.

And then, th' next page, thar's this: http://morten.dk/blog/language-twitter-misunderstandin'-drupal-community

Why need he cross-dress as a wench t' be a nurse??

That sort o' gender stereotypin' does far more harm t' diversity than what I read, here.

p.s A prof I worked fer in me undergrad were bein' th' most politically correct lubber aroun', Dance the Hempen Jig Used all th' right words in all th' right contexts.

The ornery cuss were bein' a lecherous creep who used his position o' power t' sleep with students, by Blackbeard's sword. I made th' mistake o' workin' fer that scurvey dog. How did th' political correctness help here, pass the grog! It di'nae. I would have rather no facade o' "inclusive" language an' his history noted in th' course calendar so i would have had a choice.

Bottom line in that aside - thar is no given logical link betwixt inclusive language an' an inclusive environment. It can perpetuate an' obscure th' opposite.

Best t' ye, Morten, to be sure.

Metal an' classical an' an'

T.

T. 24 July, 2014 - 07:17

Er, I posted the wrong link

Er, I posted th' wrong link in th' above post.

I meant t' post this link t' th' image posted on Drupal Planet (1), roughly seven hours before th' notice about yer resignation (2)

http://www.ctidigital.com/sites/default/files/p1100795.jpg
Robert Douglass cross dresses t' represent a nurse, re-enforcin' th' gender stereotype o' so-called 'female professions'

Maybe if th' gender ratio in tech or Drupal were bein' 50:50.
Maybe if th' gender ratio in nursin' were bein' 50:50. And swab the deck! It sure as hell isn't in North America, to be sure.

The boards gran' disconnect betwixt language an' actions only serves t' perpetuate skewed stats, ye scurvey dog.

(1) http://www.ctidigital.com/blog/news/drupalcon-austin
(2) http://buytaert.net/about-todays-drupal-association-board-resignation

T. 24 July, 2014 - 07:32

Kill Bill - Elle Driver

I think he were bein' dressed as Kill Bill nurse called "Elle Driver".

http://www.freestepdodge.com/attachments/elle_driver___wallpaper_by_demo...

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